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Old 20th April 2010, 08:05 PM
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I am a boy, obviously, and not into any specific type of fashion subculture (although I have my own very specific vintage/eccentric tastes that have evolved over time) but I do keep a toe in this thread because of a general love for niche fashion subculture in and from Japan, and also because from an aesthetic standpoint I just really like gothic and lolita styles.

Anyway, I was traversing through the archives of a feminist site I dig on after reading an article about a Jessica Simpson show on US MTV where she went to Japan (it was horrible, she was ignorant, and for some reason she mumbles a lot) which led me to two very, very, very interesting articles from 2008 concerning the American gothic lolita movement:

The first is a small attempt to understand it from the perception of living in New York, and whether it is empowering and regressive. I found it to be short on details, but the comment section is basically amazing, with opinions from all sides and some serious ignorance/enlightenment going on concerning personal choice.

The second article, much more interesting (and something I thought would interest this thread and readers of it) is from an actual goth lolita enthusiast from New York who was pictured in the first article and whose own style took a beating from many commenters on what is ostesibly a pro-woman, pro-choice, feminist website. Ellie, the woman in question, says that lolita is "most definitely feminist," and goes on to give some super choice quotes about the standards of modern femininity, espousing that "in a pro-ana[rexic] world it's personally pretty refreshing to see people celebrate foods that are not celery and Diet Coke" in reference to certain food-based prints and activities, and "to have the fetishes of an incredibly small portion of men dictate what I wear is ridiculous! To do so is to misunderstand the objective of Lolita, which is really a harmless subculture that does not infringe on anyone else, or infantilize women in general. It is not a symptom of any cultural ill just because its aesthetic inspiration comes from a period when women were subordinate to men. Why should I be worried about sending the 'wrong messages' to men? Why is that my personal responsibility? Isn't that like saying "she was asking for it"? Is the state of feminism that precarious that my wearing a bow on my head is threatening and regressive? Where is the philosophical debate about men who wear short-shorts or sandals and how they make their gender look bad?"

Anyway, I thought it was worth having a look over, even though it's a bit dated and in the world of fashion a year and a half can equate a Grand Canyon of change within a particular trend. But I just found something so authoritative and responsible about quotes like: "Frequently, female sexuality is portrayed in a way that is palatable and accessible to men, and anything outside of that is intimidating. Something so unabashedly female is ultimately kind of scary—in fact, I consider it to be pretty confrontational. Dressing this way takes a certain kind of ownership of one's own sexuality that wearing expected or regular things just does not." That's pretty awesome, I think.
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Old 20th April 2010, 09:26 PM
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The links to the articles aren't working for me, but I do remember them. Ellie is a member of the LJ EGL community. There was a bit of a storm after the first article was posted (mostly due to the ignorant comments). It put me off Jezebel for a bit (but we've made up now after the Amanda Palmer crap went down). Ellie wrote so eloquently what we've all wanted to say about Lolita but never found the right words.
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I thought it was incredibly poised and I'd never seen it, despite Jez being one of my go-to "I'm bored and it's the middle of the day and I need something to read" fallbacks. And while I'm not especially learned about the various Lolita subgenres and the broader English-speaking internet community, it relates extremely well (outside of merely the EGL community) to the broader sweep of Westerners adopting Japanese cultural interests, and how we view ourselves and the people we have taken inspiration from across cultural borders. Even the use of the word "Lolita" has such a cross-polinated and distorted usage; I loved her commentary on it, it was incredibly nuanced for such a succinct letter.
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Hmmm I'm beginning to think that there are only 3 of us reading this thread these days....

This week has been Hayley's big week of Loli.

On Saturday I went to London for a Tea Party Club meet. There was around 25 of us! We went to the Fan Museum in Greenwich which is really lovely, and we had the tea room all to ourselves and we played loli bingo.

It was so hot that day so I wore a simple outfit (fell back on my old standby skirt)



That's my friend Pear, who is incredibly funny and lovely (you might remember her as the cat with the fiddle).

The blouse is a lovely thing cotton one that I found in Next, of all places!

On Monday my Bodyline order came through. Those dudes are stepping up their game these days.


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/DSCN9481.jpg


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/DSCN9483.jpg

The skirt cost £15 and the JSK was £19 and both come in larger sizes now too. Bodyline have also got flat rate shipping on the English site of $20/£12 which is fantastic.

And today my taobao order came! I ordered a replica of this Angelic Pretty skirt:



Terrible picture is terrible. It's one of their latest prints, dreamy Doll House.


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/DSCN9527.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/DSCN9528.jpg [the lace is pink not white...stupid flash]
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/DSCN9529.jpg [in built pannier!!]
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/DSCN9530.jpg

I'd heard rumours about poor quality and scratchy lace but it's not true. The lace is lovely and the material is what i'd expect for a lolita skirt, not too thin or thick. The print is gorgeous.

I also ordered a pair of pink tea party replica shoes:



So now I can finally coordinate all the pink I own!

Both the skirt and shoe cost £15 each before shipping and fees. I used http://taobaonow.com to order them, they charge a minimum of 50 CHY as a fee and on top of that there's shipping in mainland China (which is about £2) and International shipping. Altogether I paid $66, the cheapest shipping option was $30 and it came well packed! I was surprised I recieved it so quickly because the shoes apparently take 20 days to make.

Taobao is fast become the best way to order affordable Lolita clothing, especially for replicas. Au revoir ebay!

For reference, here's a list of the taobao stores selling lolita:

http://mashimaro-girl.livejournal.com/934.html

Gosh this is a big post!
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Old 1st August 2010, 09:43 PM
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Continuing my spammification of this poor lonely topic.

Yesterday was our Midlands meet at the Victorian Town in Shrewsbury, which I hosted. It was my preperation for hosting the big Bristol meet XD



Me and Sophie. I wore my new wig, which i got from Taobao, Bodyline skirt, AP cutsew, Il Sangue Wristcuffs and tea party shoes.



With the ever lovely Syd aka Stocking Shock! Rocking her handmade tophat!



And a group shot with the King and Queen of Hearts!
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Super pictures, I love 'em! I'm very jealous that you got to meet up with Syd IRL, she's one of my favourite frilly ladies
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She made me a pink sparkle hat! I love it so ^^
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Yes - lovely pictures, and outfits. You look a creative lot!
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